Alonso says Vettel has to still prove legend status

31 December, 2013

Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel

Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel

Quadruple World Champion Sebastian Vettel will only be an undisputed Formula 1 legend if he wins at the wheel of a less competitive car.

That is the view of Fernando Alonso, who was Red Bull driver Vettel’s Championship runner-up in 2010, 2012 and 2013.

“I think [that] when Vettel has a car like the rest in the field, if he wins, he will be greatly acknowledged and be one of the legends of F1,” Ferrari’s Alonso is quoted as saying in Spanish-language media reports.

“But if someday he has a car like that of the other drivers and is fourth, fifth or seventh, then his four titles will be bad news for him because people will view these last four years in an even worse way,” he added.

“I think there are some interesting years ahead for Sebastian,” Alonso is quoted. (GMM)

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  • Tamburello_1994

    Aww. Somebody is jealous.

  • SteveisGreat

    lol ^^ stole my quote!!!

    Guess I’ll go with “Jealous Much?” ahahahaha

    and Vettel hasn’t been caught cheating either! Guess Fred likes to forget about that unless he’s laughing about it when he’s partying with Flabio.

  • Maxxus

    Vettel’s a little putz. He hasn’t proven squat to me. All who refer to his first win in the Toro Rosso need to consider:
    1. the conditions were wet

    2. the Toro Rosso (back in those days) were designed and built by RBR although they had Ferrari power (no comparison to Coulthard nor Webber, who qualified 3rd)

    3. seems people forget that the lowly Sébastien Bourdais (Vettle’s teammate at the time) qualified 4th!

    So the fluke pole and win was a combination of car setup and race strategy from Toro Rosso.

    Vettel hasn’t proven anything, my deceased grandmother can win with that Red Bull

  • farizY

    @Maxxus

    Who cares, a win is a win, and a title is still a title, Vettel got 4 in a row, what’s left to prove? LOL.

  • Maxxus

    All he needs to prove is that he can jump from one team to another and excel. Most of the top drivers have done it. Oh except for fluke ex-champions like Damon Hill, Jacques Villenueve, James Hunt, Keke Rosberg, Alan Jones, Jody Scheckter, etc etc

  • stewy33

    (I am not a fan of Vettel) The greats of the sport were at the right team, in the right car, at the right time. Vettel is were he needs to be. Also Vettel’s won at the ROC (race of champions) in even cars racing along side top ranked drivers young and old.

  • Touche Turtle

    Has this driver reviewed the list of legends that only won GPs driving the fastest car of the grid?

    Probably he knows it but just have started his 2014 psychological war.

  • adam22

    just rename redbull to minardiBulldozer or similar, that should make Alonso happy!

    remember Vettel won a race with STR and Alonso got lapped constantly during his minardi days!

  • Maxxus

    These are the only drivers to win world championships with different teams. I hope you rookies learn something here.

    Juan Manuel Fangio – Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Mercedes, Ferrari
    Jack Brabham – Cooper, Brabham
    Graham Hill – BRM, Lotus
    Jackie Stewart – Matra, Tyrrell
    Emerson Fittipaldi – Lotus. McLaren
    Niki Lauda – Ferrari, McLaren
    Nelson Piquet – Brabham, Williams
    Alain Prost – McLaren, Williams
    Michael Schumacher – Benetton, Ferrari

  • Maxxus

    @adam22

    Vettel’s a little putz. He hasn’t proven squat to me. All who refer to his first win in the Toro Rosso need to consider:
    1. the conditions were wet

    2. the Toro Rosso (back in those days) were designed and built by RBR although they had Ferrari power (no comparison to Coulthard nor Webber, who qualified 3rd)

    3. seems people forget that the lowly Sébastien Bourdais (Vettle’s teammate at the time) qualified 4th!

    So the fluke pole and win was a combination of car setup and race strategy from Toro Rosso.

    Vettel hasn’t proven anything, my deceased grandmother can win with that Red Bull

  • Imran

    Alonso sometimes right.. but he likes to give more talk rather than prove something on the track.. Seb likes to be silent and prove something on the track.. There’s so much possibilities in motor racing..

  • Tamburello_1994

    When’s the last time you won a championship Fernando?

  • Imran

    The year which he nearly lost to Schumi..

  • Maxxus

    Alonso once again proved he is the most clever driver in this F1 circus. I agree with everything he says, he is a lucid person who has earned all his accolades by sheer talent. Can’t say the same for some of these other current drivers…..

    wanted to wish MSC a quick recovery and advise him to consider his age, he is an aging fool to continue trying to be a dare-devil. Everything points to slow reflexes, his moto crash, his disasterous F1 return, and now this….some people will never learn.

    Prayers with you and yours Micheal..speedy recovery on you…

  • farizY

    @Maxxus

    So basically, from your logic, a champion, will only be a true champion (great) if and only if that person wins championship in more than just one team?

    and obviously from your logic again, none of the recent guys are true champions, cuz they never won in more than one team? So Hamilton, Vettel, Button, Alonso, Kimi aren’t champions to you?
    Ok, fair enough, that’s your opinion.

    stewy33 has the right idea: “The greats of the sport were at the right team, in the right car, at the right time.”, these guys you mentioned; they were at the right team, in the right car, at the right time and of course, with the right driving skills.

    Belittling Vettel for not winning in a different team does seem a bit harsh don’t you think? But then again, that’s your “expert” opinion (since we are all rookies to you).

  • Mr. A

    Fernando need 2 do so equally .. bt hez not

  • Tamburello_1994

    “So Hamilton, Vettel, Button, Alonso, Kimi aren’t champions to you?”

    What about Senna? Guess he doesn’t rate either.

  • Tamburello_1994

    Fernando better hope he can beat his new teammate instead of worrying about what someone else needs to do to be “great”.

    I don’t know if he notices but his legacy is on the line as well.

  • ghog

    Reckon FA should concentrate on the driving rather than trying to be a spin doctor.

    Winding others up has not worked so far!

  • AFA

    How about you do the talking on the track Fernando and stop throwing dirt at other drivers simply because you’re unable to match their pace?

  • matthew

    No driver would leave the best team to prove a point. None. Vettel will never be acknowledged until he gets old and retires. Apparently good drivers that win occasionally (jenson, kimi) get more credit then excellent drivers that win all the time. F1 fans seem to have the european “hate the winner, love the average” attitude.

  • Spartacus

    By the very same measure Alonso isn’t a great driver either. Only winning when Ferrari either had engine trouble or tyres which were rubbish. In other words, when his car was the best on the grid.

    You really have to feel sorry for Alonso. Unable to perform he resorts to slinging mud.

  • Donna

    Alonso really needs to stop talking about this particular subject. His jealousy is showing. He’s starting to remind me of Jacques Villeneuve and his need to stay relevant.

  • Tamburello_1994

    The critics will say:

    “If Driver X was in the Red Bull, He would win more than Vettel.”

    and in the very next breath say:

    “F1 is boring because Vettel wins all the time.”

    Go figure.

  • lawl

    Well, Alonso won 2 championships in a cheating car with a cheating team, then sank McLaren, sank Ferrari. He talks about “legends” but he is cancer for any team. Poor guy.

  • lawl

    Oh Alonso… poor guy.

  • vnbrtzl

    “Nuts”

  • jl

    Alonso always funny. When did he won championship with slow car?

  • An F1 Fan

    Alonso might only be “Two” time World Champion But just see the Stats .6 Years in which he arrived in the last race with a probability of winning the chamoionship till last race or most of the year 05-07,2010,2012,2013 Won 2 But more importantly with 3 different teams! SO in my opinion there is one constant factor and that is “Alonso”! just my 2 cents

  • Lol

    Alonso kept saying the first 4-5 races that they had the best car and they had the best chance to win th title…and Vettel was still leading and winning races.

    Lol.

  • Alonso_is_Slow

    Too late for this predictable bullshit by Alonso, he is not considered the best anmore by anyone who is relevant.

  • matthew

    No, he is considered 2nd best behind vettel according to the results.

  • O’Ferrari

    Except by drivers and team pricipals…

  • Boycotthehaters

    What a miserable, petty little b when Vettel has a car like the rest in the field…”

    How do you know he hasn’t had a car like the rest of the field for the last several years?

  • jl

    Winner takes it all, first loser do not count.

  • TACHELES

    “…if he wins (championship) at the wheel of a less competitive car…”

    And this out of Alonso’s mouth being champion due to the definitely best car at that time… He can’t help doing his teasing -poor character or psychological warfare? Both, I assume.

  • Guzzibob

    How many times have we seen Alonso qualify way down in the field, then race day he’s found a way to be up there on the podium.

  • fools

    “Alonso says Vettel has to still prove legend status ”

    FIRST OFF he Alonso never said that. Nice bend to a mislead article to infuriate Vettel fans. This is what I hate about media/gossip.

    Everyone knows that Vettel still has much to prove. No doubt he is good but if you have been watching F1 long enough there is no need to explain.

    Happy New Year.

    ALONSO FOR THE 2014 WDC TURBO ERA

  • AlonsoFan

    @fools I think that the whole article is an extract of the Interview of Fernando Alonso on BBC before 2013 Brazilian GP and he never said anything regarding “a legend” check it out on Youtube or BBC F1 site.

  • LOL

    Everybody gets upset when alonso gives his opinion. The fact of the matter is that alonso is faster than EVERY OTHER DRIVER besides vettel.

  • @LOL

    well bro you are wrong Lewis is the fastest of them all! ask any person who knows his shit..But its Alonso’s race-craft thats better and Vettel’s car thats better than Lewis in a tyre-eating Mercedes.

  • matthew

    Lewis is not the fastest. I mean he beat kimi again so he’s fast for sure, but he certainly isn’t the huge thing he was suppose to be, vettel kind of showed up and slapped everybody around for 4 years, now lewis is just another driver

  • ZombieF1

    Where’s Maxxus? Hiding? Just about to ask about Senna where he ‘missed’ to mention. Hahahhaa….what a fool. Alonso is indeed one of the great but not the greatest.

  • wolfgang

    So! Judging by Alonsos comment, he himself will never be amongst the legends.

  • mike

    Where do you start here?

    first of all – the Red Bull car was not a super car when Sebastian joined the team (Newey and Webber were there since 4 years previous)

    secondly – the car is fast but where is Webber every year? why does Alonso have no problems beating him every season, no mention of that?

    third – Alonso himself had no problem with his winning titles in Briatore’s super quick Renault, beating out a fast Raikkonen McLaren built by, yes you guessed it, Adrian Newey. no one was complaining about Newey’s genuis back then

    four- Vettel proved himself well before Red Bull era, he was youngest ever to score a point (in his 1st ever race) finished 4th in a Sauber, 2007 China and was youngest pole and race winner in a Toro Rosso in 2008, all Alonso has done in his career has drive for super fast cars Renault, Mclaren and Ferrari – how about he proves himself winning in a lesser car instead of telling all his rivals to move and make his life easier at Ferrari, absolute joke.

    and last of all – Alonso had fantastic chances to win the 2010 & 2012 championships but blew it on his own, the Red Bull of Seb’s he was up against those years was not all-conquering. Alonso just loves to cover up his own insecurities by trying to downplay others, we seen all this years ago with his Ron Dennis/Hamilton/Mclaren fiasco.

  • mike

    ‘wolfgang
    7 January, 2014 at 8:09 pm
    So! Judging by Alonsos comment, he himself will never be amongst the legends.’

    Excellent point Wolfgang, someone should remind Alonso that he never won a race in a Toro rosso and that Vettel won a race at a younger age than he did, he was also beaten by a rookie teammate in first season at McLaren in 2007 and threw a huge tantrum and left the team because of it, so humiliated his ego felt.

  • Awang Selamat Karim

    Ha ha ha, you’re funny Fernando. “Only if he wins in an less competitive car he will be acknowledged as a legend”

    He knows when he says so, it makes him a douche coz he couldn’t win a WDC in the less competitive Ferrari himself?

    If so, why doesn’t he name ONE… just ONE modern-day champ that won his title in a crap car?

    He can’t right? Senna? He had a good car. Jacques? Mika? Schumi? And he himslef?

    Isn’t it obvious you need a good car to win? Put Schumi in a lets say… Sauber. Do you think he can win?

    If he wins the WDC this year (if the Ferrari is good) I wanna hear what he has to say. And I wanna hear Sebs saying the same thing to him… if Sebs doesn’t make it 5.

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